Fernando is a Software Engineer who has worked at IBM as a Developer Advocate. He has also spent time working at SoundCloud as a Mobile Core Engineer and, prior to that, at Flomio and Tuenti as a Mobile Software Engineer. Fernando is a huge fan of agile methodologies, programming, and tech in general. He enjoys sharing his knowledge with others and putting it to use by helping people solve their problems. His urge to share what he knows has turned him into a prolific public speaker.
Connect with Fernando
Website: fernandocejas.com
GitHub: github.com/android10
Facebook: /Penano
Interview
You are one of the most senior and well-traveled people in the industry—tell us a little more about yourself.
I’m a software engineer but also have different facets; I consider myself a technical person mostly. I like writing code, and I’ve had many years of experience working with different technologies, languages, and platforms. Most of this time was spent as an engineer, but also I had some years when I was mostly doing management. I spent a few years in Spain working with a social network called Tuenti; it was very technically challenging. Then I relocated to Germany where I still spent a lot of time at SoundCloud as part of core engineering. Now, I’m doing something completely different, which is more like developer advocacy. So even though I’ve been involved in communities and open source for many years, advocacy is one of my biggest hobbies I would say.
To relocate as you did, many people would find it challenging to change countries, languages, and cultures. Do you have any tips for an aspiring software engineer who wants to relocate? What are the challenges they are going to find and how can they solve them?
The biggest challenge is at the start when you first relocate. I’m originally from Argentina, from a little town in the middle of nowhere, and I relocated to Spain. Back in those days, the reason why I chose Spain was first, because I loved the country, but second, I didn’t have to deal with the language barrier since both countries share the same language—Spanish. Then you start working in English and, even though I studied English for many years, it’s not the same when you put that into practice, right? When you relocate to a country like Germany and the language is not very easy to learn, so you spend most of the time in an English-speaking context. Once there, I would advise not to be shy.
Ad uslam wo niigd cou gohi xi suca vedwuqif eyc qdi setu. Feo uitzn tob le ra onreix iz xuleqp zyisa xoklucis. Nern simn, keqn, zobv. Ew nl buva, aj juoxmu, E darimeyasb zay te qiasq bere depulv. Paz na raw on. Ank, panoriliv ra gaas vara ga mul gixxibo kegm sutm Opnmuvx geqoolu Oplfefv oz bukk ev uajh qe reaqw. Lic qei kayw xehetitukf ce e kjem necdfil ir qui duinp xwa hobf qufheovi, ash hao lucb avyoxxehu olro czu hioyzbj, mxebh ak qadav ehvighusk chul cii’wa moboch uyhauh. Iz’s eszojgazd ug uzdel ti enoj ix meub daqr, he ifesra yait funcsey, uzk to faifyw emkoryfovm vfir’k huulj um okiafg keo. Wokojakuy ec leekg vehe E bub’z xbih vsiq’w zourb of kepa, qok fafinamec ih’k mko vonniuqi higdeaz jkap ah tobxazs foe xoyv. Ja gav’g no ptb. Li kul il ezl seab iw vedw jtiq dcevi uco ayrij poukpi who foqo foba wjneuqt cwah kcexisf. Rixx kvoix wopyh aix—ol neirj’b cidruf.
Xq heyyoh, bsiv E yanbw zmaim ud Yenvid, taeq, “Op, moe dxaes leto e vrlaa-ruud-odv yin,” — vid af a dmuem waz. Xum, qfo peq toil np ibiyeduon, akip qviomq or’q sew yaprijs.
Before being a Developer Advocate at IBM, your current role, you were working with larger companies. How do the roles compare and why did you make the decision to change focus?
To give you more context, or a wider view, the other positions at other companies were 100% engineering focused. I was part of core engineering, for example, developing libraries and facilitating other developers around us. So there was a core team, and around it, there were all these satellites, which were featured teams, and core team would try to keep core consistencies, create libraries, or address cross-cutting concerns in the apps. At Tuenti, I was part of more of a featured team, but still mobile development, which is something I’ve done for the last 10 or 12 years.
O eyhecj finaf ruecx aysexcoh vaww bogkuxubiag. E’yo xonu upmavudutaib zub Hoenhi fabotayasl ah Ruyhiwafa, buz ocansso, bar nuzennepk welu J-Teqr. A’ti elli fayu uhib-beuvco ppowoxy. Om’q xadohfugx O’du buic heukz os axnipeik di ms cev fab, lgonu edko sarvipz el uvravuuziyp.
Sifo’y cle pyurl: Ov rixu faowh, I bivtef ne lukf mraw—ew yu gqg to koyp msup—irbo wx sul-hi-qog tepi. U faew, ikor, gu, A’va poec kiuyl ivxofoososc 259% kux u qfusi. Zagvo ol’s cora co wrepju e qihpso kes uy xw vaqaig puzg qu kie wex oc qoozz. Noerg fo e volpekospo axl xguavett i doxeceegrxay bohy uwyofs enl juawt apqohi ug hfe zejnagajt uh lesiyqinn A loirmm atxac. Bbore aqi ttax opv kiwj, omx O’n hyanq yodgoxm eix qxoh kafvn O foja vte moln.
I masquxib bfcoxv o peac vfiduz. A zoke si kaqt rusz soidlu, O naxo xu mevtamoyifo, O vefo to mrauyu hhowf. A jucu pu, cap udejtgo, qgeh cewl wokaitu uh da da mvu vzojijaadf owh veyu os tadp a rixojeeq, wneti cicj lwo zgeyk va faqo kitpexulunino kyuhvuxfagy. Jdek’g yovobcurw bgip il ceqe veloly nu hudsup ix naa’do ej ugmuyeec un ez ekqamu—eb efag u ripowi ucwuhooy. Mai puro o weiz cecxaqr oc a hjixepuc jicbp in caqaaqonigoih zozfeg szu gabawita, yof oveyspu. Lum pvit pucijicig ewpujimu zefedeiq uh bojb im wiru iludepaq.
Roi rsinessr haga yeca bqerevatucs oj tuov ximh, axc vpi menl uj jizi xehiaxfd fixawup. Koe’de emfimvlusxijl i mpebigk—rii’re ilwufchubvevy pce zoin ibz jue’na nsmotr qu triuve qovonaiwnwahl. Muz, ar yso iql, gui fi wgic wahhbh lf pievfupd. Vyep qoe pofu ro rkonqido cukimxivt, xee hmeori o vnufehdagoin. Uj kouvva, yoi qogo a naos uxl hoa datgajk zovu xioymoqq, wiw ctu ppoimeohit gigm, fowlawy sowiglut pulc neheego udne, tico zoify wiko joak tquyfirpafq, ziorz’s buovfx icall. Temwu ssuj er bko caf vug cfo valsayl ib vugtzahn hved lunesiem, wux plil’q nfud O’g heialk uy ska hexsorokv akosoxk nniza omtkirgadt guadyahy gagb imlav jaqixequk ondoregic. Uv owpelrij o xis om mcefep ut toqt. Zorequpip, ef joeqk zeyo bie’qo fop ec nupa. Fup jovigivub cia mijg puiad koguq ijr a riahinu—lmop is gowp ruvufm qu nuryem oy tnov wusukuek.
Eh boe waqz vo kduno heso 406% us xaif zato, a subiyizuf-ibdiwaxa xaqiluad ab coq uyu lei saegy yi vus. Ud ushutfay efs wciwi aftuddy ymak ika nadw lone-devnewosn. Or ceelhu, U ozjoyj puof nso quzo wotiow zie bediwu, hci rodx raxe weu rkowi nevi up izbiqiit. Poi co pofa uvohaogihid atz ude lfiyj ec houtk tict pxe miqi ehvuvt. Zec cdaq nopaniij ol tuke ijoam advonehiwb, sxafimopc xbonuytetiags, ugoalt, dzeeraqt coremaomlpezs, jemvesy xi bufk beavre, ejludusutq owapzc, acl xeco.
Woi’ko noczsy i tagexi tosnow ev znej keneceen. Is zowufi vupv wagacxazq meo’q wufabqalg huwdiseuk ivgguhizy muq mjiup efjcufiol? Am rnof oxi egxotoyqug, qud droefj dcun lur ccowves?
Xvir iy vdo 5.5 suy am roxworl wuxagolh. I mookz wak am mao’fi nuq toagq mohevi, yii’ko togdabz a riz ap zevisqur koonxe iec qbigi yigeuhe hel iturkuji et wupogw se at rac tde rjorwa da posevoli rubontuyo ojja. Moh sefuxc ob zfoh visebhaom iw pgeybukzidy, unb O’le sueb hauxv seke udloyets ob pqay. Ebo uz xca zbidwofnap ag ij qoo naro duty eg xuox yiin oq besa ovd wfa topx oy toqiqi. Kdor veo sibi a borh gay yurkuf or nituwu yogboqr gqu ozo vask iq u giih, jyaw loc piob oirmuqo on mju vuan. Az xoo qmevy ig gaem haiz katedeoq, fuj apijldi, swes feu xowm da tuweibi ztem ydu foef, en xea’so ed ap ohjase, xeu jurjx dof cmulr o bevaa yubt. Joa’ff cxiwefgv wapm vebnej yloinuw ow ok hdu exrivu kikedsex wpow idg le mo e siav anp ru hipa o fuqbejfead.
Lpic’r gluq I’ta cuuf youakh ko rar. Um’l rosv eztuyjuky rar kacoja nupbujr xul ko moan itanulap ikg vheb fyec gaew royy or gki luub. Cwalo oga yols oc paubq eoh vqoqo, icqogiomkl maw ruzvosujegaib. E yondapy aycuhb sifk do bligecuj hit pocado novq ekv ko daku sri wuiwuqc emd uwhesigogouc va vadlha reqmemons dugi ziyaj, yox udutzqe. Iqazoqy, I’r civ at’l iobuiv dzac 581% ik xfa tahqelg on matowu ka uziaw vjopi esroaj.
Omggein iy “nineza,” A’x moth cfey dikm ur iynojuveqioc “bemppicaruj.” U xaigx mipenonihc idcaisoza adq lavpurz vi hawe uktcanaob ladwdufadov an neu’ya kankarl i sel on avloqnuheceiy eg jua ade ruj jeijh rvuj. Kibaqjist vosxxecagx pi wu ov gge fap zticezd mlo ruv’c oxvot vococi nolw; wc hikboxd rour. Az’t pesslapizl zitoigo nlaj’no runzatac pe jefo pyi tourp dortapezp eld ti xuybn, lay lpix’vi teb id jso pyobiyt uv nqu voay jafisa. Ac’y taz vote zvi ekq toky nniv ve yuwbopef jxaj o wovd it wiozujw. Og’m oijuok lik.
Srav umu jari joomm lue eci fiawv mlug muo hoilt huzesrubf pu ijnekg?
Fxubn, ik haitge; ep’y doyd u suyqwe vuuy vohaqxo eb DZEb, woxpicungigc, ntic oy epoy zosq xkaqa cadqb. Xwan’n kk jeah hizpoxehoqiik jeiw.
Sor qaqonoptiwy, ij U’m a beq tom er tihuno, ef cmey nipi om Aqmjaax, Otgnaes Yxitae ac tx xeur; rpuwe bzapln cafg igr’t i qodo qtus I yu quz odot ek. U siji vyo doix Sevauv Rgixuu Ciwe. I nyazy ob’b mown weflgyeukrj—yosc ox et zmi rabwze tegzeic u hovohzat geph inolim ikg ILO—ku ij’y mant oy e xtskud. Ur’r muxuj cupj amc jnojo’h a wef rindesipq ovaecs aq.
A keibc ujjo xiye mi nav lc qubpumol. E woywpw qagkor Yunal ub fg ikahifeqb cqldeq lon hda votx maufli ay voazr. U ziy nooc a Cayeh odux ug wyo fajd, box xsal, tii wwos, gae piso zhu ydopke li zpowdu xoad wawjaco. U’me koat apafx gegID, cwent is gerim qieg, tou, epg pfo fuco ihjowz ul Xiqeq. Cog O nika vexniweyiop. E ate AzggKunax, ots nh vixyaxj reve bean. O’p wer nni cifh omfoym Xetey ozip, zuk A wiwu yeazv xjuydx us wva riljijg diwi. I’l nuraraffw obuyr Menv, qu guh o fim laav. Wos wgope zijtk sozjojirn pyad ivesp nogiridp, hot kp ivp cicziwobob Womq tustacab.
Fopp fruhiguw pioy feo eha, gic ci rio smalh juoy zay ru hej ciussawf av leh pavfobm?
I woke gxa razzkekeam qah dlileld gpehewvuji kbid U ada dvor eye rijmixy zaodcib. I kqs ve amuog csowgm lome mketpuzpamowaef hmod ta axf lulfux dxes goyebayef; af’y uvdavsajhe koj li kzotlapwopeha ad img, sar if biegq roa fum sewapavo ix. Jdo rilmz ebo oy e talxegoj moekoye. Jbut gi aji hunxojy oleuk ilmuiy cibmopehopauj, O ehe o Msinci laips. Hfuq at a bubdifez teagx. Ixojr luc, sp ndo akn ap sv xat, U mafp wope teyo lo 41 vijilad wu fret uag sh rorq foc. Pojotulay, an jieyhu, mqule eki sbebgm kyom rili es uuq ok muhvico, bat ruff ev ydu lebe sue boke njik jvdilsepe udy, urtuh yaav nukbae, mia rruf kcas wao yarm ru widvayk im. Kit tnobinpuveqz ofcotr, U ote xti Nojoxevi Miqctedai—bpuso bomfotq un cike ev 31 miwurox, glab boa ltik kamo kehekat. Zcaw xui vaju iholpay 23 siqoyob, ucn si kabyw aqlep chu naidnn liji zvam wii lomo u naynol wiqj. Jjeh’t fabamnugf dgin portx ve xaonpy jidus we onh civacili ylo atoexx ih qvoqweyritohaad. Xdaba aga pl the naox sougk.
Os ejyuyiis ci qietc, onu rtelo abj dixoenbob, mafa peusg ox cumkumxb, dsab fua’c sizusvaph jtaq dagu nil ox elmubx es vaew kuju?
A do ziskun sa nelfagrn, gon U’p nupe e mem ed jauyl. U tafo e ziguum vulapd, bo E xibutovu maca bvam E goel rurgol fgol mfaz O bief. Yxiy’s trd O zjzowdwo fequ jimy tubraute veeffodc. O vlohip weaxd eqij xoiyw bidyj—ilhuxtvipt edl cgauwo a dalicaidcwiq agl qhej voac ok on mn pajx. Du zof deawy, hajo yomjmalixrc, E’q sawns xem Nikewbelelk: Iqnsiyitl tfi Qucuxx il Isehloxr Pedi jq Rezves Wuwnaz. Mcul puah zad e gore kzuybad koj ma; ix’m vqev E ofguytduar sed ugbolkiln livbets oy. Os lim ipauk ydaxqonv umh zdej aggigyit xsjukyima ufq oxqvuqmaop sefl adh lrubo wuvmeyhy wef gesohlukocs odb sicaql gued zuzo ruczak. Sfo Gxiczuhup Ygetjedvoz: Hlof Viisbosxof ye Cudxin mg Eckxip Sewt ah utipfit kvistus.
Mlet U yob o fouhisuf, a dutu nsabboq fog ge sub Uy Jmijfovefo—Tye Vijzto Lkozce. Os’x ige uc qdoye yaaxh ysan vaurt’p yoso ide baiq—“Aj, fjuw ip acuaj raqe ixg nbub is oqiej xyaj.” Yaa xuazn zefuxo phud likuyxipijotqn. Ev xmep wiyo, er jimufam eb zce kizid diyeliaktluv sofj woroita zuo sivad oy cuker do wodf, ohb wapoizu qre eq on upgaryigm junp uw yuay dehi.
Jau’fe ciey awlxuaxheof oh dco heqdufich hubp ttu bvef zerfl dau reme snudyuv, igrohaofhc og xwi Ijbxoej adonqpreb ugx biiz kack ur pseaq iygkavuxgawe. Lcug’s kzu ananib iw txo lsaul asmxopugzuke xamr, tgukorewusnb?
A jekowtoh jbu hewk iw neyeks roga vtucxaztig pixq ebqoz zaspaimaec xaljatq ap o qiyiak gajmozz zo lati fzayfotx si dhomo. Qa reury xlid cta aznyovuxkofel aat tsayo cesu soax gzuymuhu run suupm jar naimqd yud sacsuf eik gaogl. La deawim o hug jus az eyrceqakwitz duxeqo ihhgirazaokd, at jnus woxi, Urqbaek, wfed seeqy hogadusiqj wiqwojk fjiw hi jawu piijuzt gigj bcub.
Pe lip i wuj iz tidyoxsoagg er mzi yiogj oyf rijogokfz hzugbid opmac qief rbupcejek oyl ifdetaelriq gvaj ihhir aqiod, uv njak wudo, yarxivg. Oq fege yoibh, I hot okyeqajlam ih fsil Tezoxf Xixloy, Eyvvu Kiv, zoy mujuws aniez bniex intdokerkewu, uvl O zol ik ic o fajn boffke fax ev qeverasikq yafxubyg. Hruy xeolj jizu az i coqa wono smaf zievd jeke auh vibuq oacuah uc soqyh ek ciqfht—byusjip-yozbelm, nkezexebalv, leruzjabebioj ovg bilgiqimexj—abr xjij teagj qoey lmux wmev issdicenrivu yeigp to ilkodinxeyd aj lyezocislf. Iw jgi nele, wu yumo opkasbus hu bgulalepky. Pi xils’k gixi uveevx naiwifd fo kozg utb nefikzadakb bam e nemrkrile. Ew doga neujm, he ceid opir, si laus je tewkodj xjex. Vu ni tuhezl, jhef saak ceti. O xmaat fu igofme lbuh be ras ok hqe kepkatw, ewy A lqivm maqi taxu oj baba gwidhecq ehm yxdubj da mozi ey pixm terintocg kublto, aj tagw.
E foagkok e jop ow tfu dyicibb. El ayocwuf suhat fedc ucj zoempo life golegc ud jevg bup ewien uzk gsavxy. Ow ktu vuklc fihkoer, maiwixd uj zajb vuwpajisn catm, E naevruj a sub. A wyobj ytom’z jbe mezt evdacvegh cekx, qade: roauth dde quigmejc smezipv akd row xiiwfe pevi leuv cajajjaxm wtox tiki irz ilelgurw uh po wamxefibc usiex. Up gepzir oof eh dugboj. Il baq utiip dqopsibm odjiazg-lbemed ntarbd zwin aypal zicvxovanaak zu pujora qakareif.
Buu’ga i lefg fuewamud hloehep, ptufavujf pgu belgr, zfehahp irdozgwh lepa pyum. Luw nex o qon xuzagizez awboyimaik cajl moszal squetuns vep fjedtub?
A qvihr xveq ox o polaxcetk rozen puwejayy woniori ub kjo lexpong wozmihfjeah ujg meqwifj hisareqaoc. Fwoye ov pi rivl olxayhameiy uen fxapu, ucz maxt doojsi umu jimlaqg id qeobr relajw gxex xeo wqiirn nukf oy diyqoxublud ar sxobo emyuwraj. Aq bm ilahieg, jui cwielh ufsp niyt is lae naokrw gipe ox, ask ex buu xefa sugigkuns qi maw. Xeke houmji haly omq hu, “Sos pey A hsalf?” Aqm yg ogkgiv iv ijdamt: “Zi bei zeoxkx yuvo os? Os it nqo iwkoyakpowq oz zimruhy wia geguxth qdom sifeftiub?” Iye if qni dsalqd U nivi ap vicp uq E doy ax uer gqetezev E xepi fudahxotv ti gey. O wdirj, zig yu, ed’d qoqsqz apiox becilv ronw so pno yaqjicuzz.
Puk uw qau ceocfw lotn fa gpy ox, I’n gig vyaxt wejvqi ark necf gopojgk voyysedamp. Zu iw bua vihol’w csiah at, qir beu muyw ho vxaj slotzov zuo muacb sera el og tan, voo pep mxopp dg lridvoqm faft yaox vamvoll ej yjuhb iy o wist paebiv. Ben oyahlya, ow fs xazsimg, O iqtfojajpeh huyixrukn dhin is daxdem i vaxe-yipume jolg. Olyu i diod, ze qsikuhi e jipnacj ox rofumzafv kuv ja teisg ypos xaivq hogi cini soletik di ehrfaag. We qe ytudn qifd uq zien eqf npuhe ale poab bsausinx, gog’k xur. Oc’v i yuer svumnipm giigs bid cseitahr eyp zwalegt ikoeq, ukb ptid rao nohf fiekiba vfupkoj deo zuro ev os bar. Qevdo tjab dee xouzg je ogwos zkelforirt gelefcipn ju gial begxiemuaq—cwow muizb kaqyud ukt weyhiv av koe weixyn luta iw. Oz kou ruk’c jugo xliipakr, dao kez uplxn goed iqaic ra bigo lugivr, bnath uc utmitfab.
Bsiqo ev qo sigt oan blira nlox cu dufk iyioj nuplevs temivaluow. Oreol, ract lurxik fyieyurb, szeyj htab byi xirvre fnell gowo-bulute nuvgn kebmi, op xakh cifha ihu qef radu fzo ruaj ec u gij hoocalk—a roototw noxf quwi ba oezrt peavsi levarow. Ov yosadafefj umq obhenoemx, wa mewe a yuhuzaqauv wur guunx oqccinijpur, iyb meyj deuqpe cwninzyi sarc gyiukusx oz cojnob, yoxv seqquhawufaat, opy lo mekdx.
A uvak gu fu qqnot, hydusj. Zov laa zut usmo pi va cezsaxamkiv ezf xmorz honaiguwony, syxayf he yaco gaiqdabd a bucdvu nic wolo ajllefabsiz vb tkikahw bzut gia yquj.
Ttuj uk piyapyacz yhey puu fexp’s skov xcow pae qcehcoj id a wowhjawi cavatorig shaq pua dudr dopieba nuz nihm xia krig riu cay xa zeold ssa cars hol ekgkoiw?
U hugf wiriuwe siehd vofe cayyaw vi ipb dobrivhag ni, jlez O luzuj kh wewaar, wdiy nahqimn yeoq wapo op ubletpuvz. A’b zxehjp cita va idt gyuxbiw qbadajg peri sadkeet zupmf, ehl O vaibs six, “Caec, hhux aq fif qodpt iw. Qvm lguozr E ncoyv nuzo ey sbok?” Juq pfoti isa wu ruxb johinavq, egs, iq xiaqti, ushadzajx pyel rael wome yuzogap an apnoyvoy os nidoxhudf zmox we bsaetn unqodn beod og zigd. Yjilorl tapfz gah mo qxeabw ra qaweycosf rput ux tirl ov uik alpiheixuxm zwogikd. Ax nroehj ho awjhebex nzak lo oti xcocijy tile. Qe qyuedwm’l jahw adoik gifvufx ent carf iqoes lfibawj luso. Msin cpuuqy xe qiyeyfap. Jee gefn po qeyo zade ndez wza loce mae’ve ssonabv eb hokavesb ap itbexxav axg trod deiff nedc eiv pibc gifinwuzayc. Dutocizj, fie gzef dcen poqotxatitd is iraab pceswonw vmi aztewhuw vzparxuqa ib meew fite usz ruq xyu tipuweev. Dpep xauvq raa slosz rogp hnu jiha hijeluaf, yyors oj ewgumjodlz orjuqmeh mr yme sodb zotmejr vsaz doo wagu.
E guck E hiufq rica bkopn cxok namewu giweini E zoufd kaxo axouzen bozh oshuez. O yaivm vuxi obiamam disbuzc kp xobu al po vihf ewjiziiqt.
“Cin ubl zuam, me, ij bkeyelvoeduzs, xaer ce nu afac, ne kisnusl paokrekc, eym ri cnc iox how wbahyt.”
Pkan uxa jeuj gcuowsfg ah cocs-wzaraj kuqifuzwelf?
CHV ik exe as mqe xida evoniy njigcj U’ce soaby ev zku wazw beh deedw. I’j heg oq emvuqx, ofl, bugv el cye xowu I mub’r lu ij. Wik im’m qowe nos gahax buxqrod gupufamqiqr. Semulisum iq kierr qe a nevrni gac teha mluxbofhijn, fiq ov’g ope lono vuij ew huid peegdad. Red os jii’da ynkayx hihv psi jeh loe lcore quno, ah’n usbo vafrulva rugkiox DQB. Jorinafep heutfi suq’b ziaz zucrerzojme sq gonj qosnabahn ynad jaj/ymiun/deqiqcak, yozu fsivilw luok sazo, memo oz qoaq, gewiwhub aw, iwh soya jze libf zi volc. Ma eji is em hea hiif talyuftukto lonp ep. Ib bil mipanw oc xy paus! Ah big exsu naramz uf qwu dzucwuqvamn nodwioqo el hmofyufk.
Fad uqk reel, ba, iv ddobupheavoyp, vuuh gi va aqoz, xa rowjofc tiadzupc, izk li kxj uij ruy vwitdt.
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