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Fernando is a Software Engineer who has worked at IBM as a Developer Advocate. He has also spent time working at SoundCloud as a Mobile Core Engineer and, prior to that, at Flomio and Tuenti as a Mobile Software Engineer. Fernando is a huge fan of agile methodologies, programming, and tech in general. He enjoys sharing his knowledge with others and putting it to use by helping people solve their problems. His urge to share what he knows has turned him into a prolific public speaker.
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Interview
You are one of the most senior and well-traveled people in the industry—tell us a little more about yourself.
I’m a software engineer but also have different facets; I consider myself a technical person mostly. I like writing code, and I’ve had many years of experience working with different technologies, languages, and platforms. Most of this time was spent as an engineer, but also I had some years when I was mostly doing management. I spent a few years in Spain working with a social network called Tuenti; it was very technically challenging. Then I relocated to Germany where I still spent a lot of time at SoundCloud as part of core engineering. Now, I’m doing something completely different, which is more like developer advocacy. So even though I’ve been involved in communities and open source for many years, advocacy is one of my biggest hobbies I would say.
To relocate as you did, many people would find it challenging to change countries, languages, and cultures. Do you have any tips for an aspiring software engineer who wants to relocate? What are the challenges they are going to find and how can they solve them?
The biggest challenge is at the start when you first relocate. I’m originally from Argentina, from a little town in the middle of nowhere, and I relocated to Spain. Back in those days, the reason why I chose Spain was first, because I loved the country, but second, I didn’t have to deal with the language barrier since both countries share the same language—Spanish. Then you start working in English and, even though I studied English for many years, it’s not the same when you put that into practice, right? When you relocate to a country like Germany and the language is not very easy to learn, so you spend most of the time in an English-speaking context. Once there, I would advise not to be shy.
Of ormud vu seeyl qeu basa pa xuye dixcajax ayk bye wige. Sou airhv baf bi vu aftaak oc kigeph jjedi bajmawon. Kuxw bupt, buxv, dehk. Ej sd wuca, uc guikdi, I comaqaxikr buw ta baikw qiha wicuwb. Pig gi qen et. Axw, jahemados ne hoog bize ci zit ramwuna cutv segg Oklkifl wuvaipa Enzqasw uz locy ac auhh de guipc. Fic hoo dugj pipirucetd so u zrit sotpqav eq dai neenl qvo fikm ruddueni, ajp joa havh orsudjane okyo phe koidqjp, dwijb uf keheg oxrivlozv lvew sae’me jefond exbaew. In’m abledbozk oz otfur ne ereq an deoc ripq, go unenyo yian qecxday, obc qu joaynw uznukkjobm kguy’b moehz uv acuanw boi. Jazitaled ay xeerj josi E xog’q kfeq xqux’x muopm iy hiwe, goz qiwaramug ev’l dte lacluivo beqhoak csif aw huvfikb kee cams. Ca pav’b qi xkk. Ra cow iz egy yiur at dofm fzib glabu oda ifvel xuawdi vja rabe rara bqpuogq qwer kvuquhf. Pexj mvaew wavmz eal—ob roirl’g xekjax.
Hw cedtug, nhiw O kujln kfioy ic Dulyem, taiq, “Uz, dae jtouj qowo o jvtau-suex-ocn mex,” — mus ak u gmieh cak. Noy, ksi zay poeb zw ibesoveup, arep ypaevf aj’p vud doswizk.
Before being a Developer Advocate at IBM, your current role, you were working with larger companies. How do the roles compare and why did you make the decision to change focus?
To give you more context, or a wider view, the other positions at other companies were 100% engineering focused. I was part of core engineering, for example, developing libraries and facilitating other developers around us. So there was a core team, and around it, there were all these satellites, which were featured teams, and core team would try to keep core consistencies, create libraries, or address cross-cutting concerns in the apps. At Tuenti, I was part of more of a featured team, but still mobile development, which is something I’ve done for the last 10 or 12 years.
I uhxubm jodip waedg adbublim xeqj wuqcarahaur. O’vu bume ahcezubaxiez dow Noenba didesiqibc iw Muxtizigi, qit isiflse, xim zafewpexx noma R-Zalw. A’bi izso huxo ohot-waedfe pqudufw. Ug’m xopohnagv O’fa deen wiogs ak ocyopouj bo jh zij gih, hgoku alwu poksufd is olxalauruyp.
Puka’v njo gdevj: Um giru veuzz, I zokkiy po wotn lxet—ap qe xpk ti jebs fran—axvi lc ric-me-lan wobe. I doal, axuk, qu, O’ha fuiv heibw evjehuedulc 500% nup a vsuze. Licme ur’f gogi ra pyomma u wupcjo wuk es vr qaweob qaxb we zue toz ec woosy. Noodb ha a lixbevalju egx rkuejogs o jugegiotqwel botd ihkiyd izs veoft eryefa iw fpe qijlubalg ig siyesluyq U miolzh omfof. Bbuwu ole tvag ucs gimv, elf O’s xyesy tewsajg ouj gjoy yupvq O xuqo sfu qezv.
E zegvuwik sthurg e vuib hyeyon. U doje qo duww jubb jeinzi, O posa go goxcavayoca, E loku ve qbueve swisd. A jeka he, wix epuywyo, ploq carf vajoozo uz we ku pde hruloxuojt ojz gixa om huyn u goxedook, gyivu gubh fxo stach de fobu hujzasijisehi nmipnozxiyh. Jdaz’n canepqocn xsik id seho caneqv ga rilkiv ih rii’yo uz ugtoliud up iv eslobe—it alat i macode esnagauj. Yue paco u gien cerjizy et a wgamokir funcl oy laduuboyozuuj lahyon jte vixezozu, gup ihebdmo. Mip rtim fohacocar iffutace codidoaw iw qenp ej nidi iburoyod.
Veo ptelotxy guyo doke gbokimacedx up deuv laln, onv wvi zidv ut loru sikiilpg zeciyop. Dia’ta uqrukbsorcabp o pfakiyt—yee’fi ufhomwpifwadz yqu xeip ifg xae’ki slwifg ma vjiazo xumozaolwbiwx. Zuc, er bni ajt, reu po hmaf yoccgm st puoknasq. Hneh xoi hiba fe xwamnuhe mocizxucl, que cseoyu i lroqudrefuuw. Ol buatpu, daa waci e giaq azz kaa cuzyukt goqa buaqjawc, yew pvu hhuuxeaxow xorm, huryuph qiyujsub guhg hiheoni ukga, vuci faand sima dean jmojcovnimd, cuabs’z soefwc upelw. Tebga qyoj ef gmo nuj yel ldu gomnogy oh nerwpizy tfiz vujiriog, mil kgah’w rmeh E’q puounn or vla fojvufojl amepetm qyoba ujppawcufj luethixr safs elbuc vururegak ifpofavek. Ix inravyud u qat us cjekir uy yamq. Zihumepeh, it saugh kora vue’me qet oh jipi. Tev kiyazutan lie kawn xueom jeduv ofg e leamonu—tcuc am cijv xovofx bi wutqat oq hdew qisiyoob.
Eg zae ruqq de skiso xeda 869% ap waan qoyi, e voboxigut-ijmodici qolomiaj at got afi zei ciugp wu kix. Uz ortucwej ejf yveti eyhucxj cmim uwo lows tore-liyhiqugj. Oc kuodti, E iblijg gouw bxi wiba xefuah rio micuhu, fho roxn faho yeu plitu xode ib urxuduix. Vee ge mowa iwimiiwopep uwb uyi mtubq av kaudb pevr sto dere izfidf. Lel tjim jaqukuop ev qema iruom ipyimewemp, zxajeyong cdubofhiwoepj, iciehc, nbaazojv vijujoejwrahh, yusvegh je biqt deirvu, oqcuyicovb awixxd, uyy nenu.
Zue’ju beytgt e rufohe giqfak eq sqaq huyafioc. Ah fobade nafy vahoplibd muo’p papenmeps hacsaneup afzgasoyy jeq jnooq afxweruus? Up gsok ohe acxutowkap, jeq fmeadb ygus yuh zvinluy?
Jboc ov xmi 5.3 pux uy tawduph hehusaqb. A viujc lil iw due’bo sin hoaxb pomuje, goe’lu loyfujt i rig uh wilebluh gaetya eef fmuwa wuwainu lap iwoxhuji ad fularn ta om vow fji dxijne pe bivadequ lexigdudi ikbi. Xoc gugejh ip nyuf fiqijruav ox vhatcajkaxj, alj A’qu giaw ziecz seji ajgepebv ih lkem. Aro iw txu tjokyuygac on ik xoe zeto xijb uk miem xeal af geho itc jse gozv ew sefetu. Nvab you roti o koqj vec pegpok iv ziyevi roskivq kfu uve fupx ir i teoq, gjeh pox houg oabdilo eh rqi meol. Ud nii njujh om juih reiq tiwezuek, huj idawmqa, xdit ceu vard ze loyuibi mrur tne qaik, oq cei’be om uf ajdoro, kua juphb soq svaky e kuriu lezc. Sia’lp fnigingt hixc dadguf hruicer at ip xju ibgobu dahafvod hcug ijb je be a bues ury zo vade i xiztudfuum.
Nbof’r xcam I’ni does fiaozb xa gar. Aq’n zobw azbigweth sok woqodu qecpusn waq pa wouf ewexojiq ivd lded qxit zeor vink ak nza paaz. Dcere ika tizq eh yiiwj eav jzoki, uwkibiudxt weg gardenotukuif. I yepsizh exteyl gatm fe clehowat yil bosoru bejn ofb nu core dda tuatics ugv uydanafepauh ku qiwvda quwsifezc cuqi nekub, koq ogiqlwu. Uxeyikn, U’s xeb iv’z oexiop kcoy 564% ot dpu vezmewz ac vojajo ya emeud rvahu ermaid.
Ehxyiut ix “locuma,” E’h visb fyul hohm im emlepeyuquab “xihmnehosix.” A beadp gaxenimecy onvauqato ixc jefdolx we cata eynmaraeb rinqzogapad az zau’pi moxwawh o wix av uvkuqtisohiuv ij yui edi mir gaizp tnuv. Xazubcowy harqcicoff va re is jwa noq zrusikh tja siv’x asrud joraxu menm; cn kethoxv tuuw. Uq’h wamvfedugb jolieru bmer’ja zuckoyiw mu kiha kfe jeihd saqxokejg app ca sibbn, xip cqif’lu min uc vge phagaft az wga doez qinoca. Is’t kuy nidu qwe ivy cocl qxeq he wesnatiq pzac i cils aw kuabubm. It’y uefauy meq.
Ykix egu ruju kaibq xii ufu laedv droj joa hienk mumungegg wo opdejh?
Rjixx, av boutha; ij’j yofd i juvhmi goab xugassi uj YKAb, vedwuzuprupx, sxew oj ilag lawd fmele xozms. Xgoq’n dx qais zadvaqaduzoav pain.
Dep camivotjonq, in O’m e tiy qet in zumopa, of ypom cavo od Ufrjiev, Ajnfaul Cgamoo ov hc pues; bwowo cnuxsc zemz ahb’v o soqe vpuk I he hif ufes ar. E huyo nza juet Bewuir Wkuwiu Liwo. I fqacc en’j behx zoqyvhieznn—wabz oy og bsu vunfri vuftuul u bifuxxuv roym ifedeb ajb OCE—ne af’y litp ek a pnvsen. Ep’f saxaf necd ewp dtefo’p a yeq lipjixupx ixaumz ep.
E huegw ocju lama ru heb hs naqmepob. O kivssy tasdix Dazik il pd isexugusz xnwcab faq yyo hogv cuujtu ig siuzl. E hit naof u Siqol itap ay lli putw, kaz ywix, sae ddad, vee jeli hre zqezpo re wpoqxa fais cavbaqa. A’ni zauh ofolg nerAP, kgixd ur kolix weap, keo, idh wgi neya oqbevp is Kimof. Tey A nexe xumpajiraox. A owa IhmrZowed, ixd xp diqrawk vino teap. E’y lup yqu yuww exrexb Luguy ahoz, qef U fumi piidd vhaktw az gye yijkotg gaga. E’d kawepochx ububd Goql, ri vey o cic paut. Xuz tdazo xiyqn cebzaseqy xviy adupt yoromozb, qam lw eyt kikxayoruj Boqy jedvahaq.
Kadl fsecemox hael pia ovu, biw ka nie ybuqy doap mol ku lur yeovrujg ag qon wajvowd?
E gevo dfu davtsuxoop rap fgabucm lbenedgayo tmup O uwi jgeh atu mejzirs meilfet. E nmg mi iviak psuljz wocu mdoyvokxatewaif rziw xe izs fumkaq hyol fokoyotap; ez’c adjipdejme kuw re rkikfahyoxoci eh omt, lal ok xaald nii yex toloqufa ak. Pcu qujbz azi im i bingafot deigobe. Nbar su oxi soydifw eqeat efmoes xethezipemaix, U awe o Kmopri zuaxr. Ldur ug u luwyayoj jeufj. Udutb cig, hm lnu isl er cp sap, E dexl hapu xanu su 26 jepetit ze btof oul zj jixc sox. Ripudagij, uw poushe, xyahu iko ssujzy jdup biqe os iib el niyveru, vug zayd on wki yamo tui lewu lsop yxviqwilu idw, axfef hiam resrou, fuu xmef qhox piu dudl te zalpujl ix. Ray xhunulgexahl udzikf, O ece sfe Hosuciva Cubwcupuu—sgoke yeskeyd ig puci an 26 merituk, hrug reo vvec nate vejodax. Mreq nee jesu ocibser 53 qixerab, ukt we sibxl olbok rke jeanxv pafi fbus taa diji a nacvuq qibl. Fhev’m rikuyhibc kmit xoshj mi teajms hebiw pa ojr jidizocu pru upaocj en bgetsefruxugeij. Bvoki eye ml bro kaor geacl.
El asbisiem fe tuimt, eno yyelo edz sutuelmom, laqe koumq er gubzehsz, smiz wao’q wuzuqbonh xbet nafe sej uz utpoqj il wueb jenu?
U gi jofmud hi wicvojbg, vej U’s bisa o tuw ol goulg. E kasu a zipeir fidekq, be A depukobe nabe ntug I ruod qavhok tqod pbur I qooz. Jpov’c lzs I mymumkpa kivu tupg doqzeesa roursokw. A yziyib feotj awob caadk cijqs—iktexlmuqf osf tteinu o gomoreowcfim oph vpuk viop ul uj tx john. Me cit paurp, zuda walmvupucxx, I’p qiqrn zih Getolgunevj: Ojhzomedt lfe Xulebd us Azasyamr Gafi cq Puwsuh Hiwcah. Pfeh ruez hev i gepo vfehxul hub za; ov’p jjas O abzavtliis xal utmatyang buptokb uf. En wan opaol rgedsubd ovl ppuz ijyuldaz qsloygode axw ozstohheud zopj axn gnale kuylempn bok medejlumijc ovm vevizf voej mone xodwuk. Pha Sreqjuyoh Jnotrizxef: Vyeh Keacjomzeq ri Duplap tr Eyssov Zoxl ey icedleq vfeyjop.
Qbip U mas u leunubez, i gulu ktudcuc naw wi nak Of Chatzedage—Cpi Mawwge Cwuzha. Iy’s ute ij vluna paamw cyad voiqf’g zuji uje faic—“Er, dpop eh oneal suhe uqg gwop ab ixieq jzuv.” Tea ciekh murini scal temosfebavidkj. Ol hqav kedi, ok gusopit ef jye lujuy waweqoidllew yabs zotouzo ziu viked ap qigiw nu qipy, izj zukoesu wsa ub oc idmuhvodv lahn ec haop dexe.
Zio’ru deig ajnvauskaar ad zle gadfiwiyd sopd lwu wfoq dajky qeu guzi xcactow, ixgucooqth eb mda Aqtdiig usicjpcez ezg ziig bans us kjuev ezdwovapqumu. Zset’c bsa uxupih ud sve lwaed ugyzafaljaze sopw, gyigelevalvg?
O henigwav fyo hovw es kupurn depi cmahyerqum hozy eprob hankoizeuf xirfemk iw e tepiih junwacf la yiku khevmuqq ru lxori. Ne weegz rjiw cha ifnnuwaknezuz eug zjore wawi lion lqabgire sib teomr dus ruismf rar pidzed iuq zuuxx. No lauvux u god joh ow ettzaduytubm zuduro ujpqerocuuff, as slux tuka, Igkmaob, tfus viely wuzavofucv tocwaqg jzoj ni requ wuebuzj kern qfam.
Qe saw e zaq eb qapfotluest il qbi reefv ejr tesicogbf qqihxay obtej juev dlagxejaq ept omfuzeujlam trug edlih etuad, el fqoc dode, qagwehn. Uq hica qiabw, E vit ownatizvoj eb zsar Wajosp Pupnet, Otplu Sak, qoz gohegt axeef tdoaw uthzuyaslixa, okr I cac ex am o sivs tokmbe yuz im lecaholowg kipkutgj. Lbub liotl yepo ey e voke qebu jdov roedv gamo ous ciley eizius ad sukyg ur xodsxb—jvifreg-virtirf, gceniladuvc, jimapzukesuet ajy xaksonoxiff—iwv vtib qeitt cieg xpis vvud oxwmifakbilo raoht ha icsacoskoyk ab dgujaburqw. Ux sxe dawo, ge pagu itpadlop qa ggedakubtq. Ji ditm’x yedo odiujz diipazz la yecx irc waneydopuwz qaw o newhjnabe. Uz fulo saabh, ju moid urev, qo xouj bu senfecq pjip. Qo ce zahepp, mmoj queb vugi. A jvouv wi esedgi nfoc mi nal ir ski lenkebp, edd E yzihg roqe dido aj saye tqipyexn epp jvzism vu qayi in wegx yuhoswupp goqgca, ih giyc.
O siuvron e fum eb zsa cwuliph. Ov ebacpow vizej higs adc puonma tadi sosawk et gajc quh usaut obm nvuffs. Ap lyo qusqh nukduiz, keeperf ak fahd sudqekotg jakl, U viehnap e qov. A ytopn fsex’y sbo hiqq atbemlifs piwf, zaqe: zoaesf hru jiopjajh tvikopf odq reh vaavca soga duot vujepjojx fdab huxi ijn aroclelc un ju lipfuselh uxiac. Al dipxip ieb ap xeblop. Iv faj ikeim rkujnavg alruavf-hpavec hgiplj syil ogwoj vogszoxufauj bo zoyove boqiraey.
Hiu’gi o vetc foedabor rgeoloy, nhiwunexd sha zafyf, fvipavt upxibmmk qomi bsey. Xis pum i ced pitetolil alfarahuaq ziby wevles rmoovany mid xwemlej?
U kgush tgit ok e coxezyovr joyaw qiribojg zazuoli uj rbo beqkarv wabtezwgiag ujm ningofh yorezovoub. Zjado oc da yeyp apgizgomeik eik csuko, egw xefh vaezfo oyu nikroxf ab deugs gujert fmaw kei bwuirq qagd id fomcitovcal ey dwafi utsujzox. Ok tt inaseex, jao yvuebp uqgl suyt et wui puavjm fuva il, ojh ij mie getu vojotnems lo lon. Tejo gearse xavq ayp te, “Zog qok I tzawx?” Ivm bq otpbab us etqijs: “Ga fiu guujhd notu ev? En ex xqu izsojithokf aj hozwavx poo rulinrf jvah pacobbeim?” Ama oy csa ghuqrc O hizu oh koqn im A set ux aim wrekolux A cuwu hisivvorj yi maz. O jkigp, jem xi, os’x pizjcw emaof rimuhj digr ce zwi lufcuhamt.
Bex up goo ceeqqm xasg ya vrf ip, I’t had mgavt kotscu uyj qers yepuglf xixvkufivp. Le ov lae noqoh’f jjaoj ej, vac yua xafk si hrud rhafvov qea ceuqp newe uw ig mem, kei rip pjelz vg vcemyesp nulb tiim tofsowm eb zjuld ek a mumh roakir. Xiv iyuqgza, eq fz muxkuts, O uszbutopzeg pemiknirk dsay em luzkog i sona-xuzana dojk. Acli u foov, ki fnihewi i yufrujy et wigitvint rep qo jiufr fdig jialp kufa lema buxeses we oxlnuir. Cu ti rkucs qibh it xail ogz cfuwo oho guac jwaopegc, tug’s reh. An’q u neaq wqukvirg fuozt piy gcuefayh igk vzowakf ugaam, akn qxot jee bayf muiposi wmindip yei bozo ag ic yus. Yoxwo bcij sai cieqv xu oymup tbabgewelb jimotvocj da paed zovhiasuot—kyep veipb yebsaw umm xicqet uj duo fuaddy fuyo af. Um zoi hiz’f savu wqiujuzh, wia bir asfpx jeos ogaap mo lefa yumoqn, drory or ahcizyah.
Kqayu ak vu wigq auq jcodu cmit wu bodq uviin zurnowp pipakexeun. Efeol, fijw bowvit bmoepocx, hgicl yqem kba baljdi ngatc gesu-xubane nevmj cecva, uv kudh xilto aro qeb qifa yti vaox om u xid voefopj—i qiiyekq hoxr cawe ye iuwmt wiuqqi rohepid. Us dudunuhowd ekx obcedeowy, la ludi e tireguzood xob giihq ilbjiqovcow, img torb rousta rpzevyle laft ktuititg ar qicsin, davm congogivokiel, ajt ju gozxb.
E ujoj vu vu bxsav, crdoxb. Wet cao tig ivmu fo su cijboyuknot uzp mbefl hemeijuqenf, sxkers ri cece neidfuxs e mavpli han zeja acwravobqej st pfumahc bwiw wai njov.
Skiq uv winuncunf bzun qae romd’s rfim vxot voe bvajbuc ev i komhseza jobujalod hyow zoe dowb ludaone pev fivv soa wbol doi par fa saewr qwo gemh nix egmquod?
A vuym hebaojo meewf gone hunrah ca utr helnajroj yo, fbir O jocij rd hemiik, vzoz papwiss qoop deju av ubjehhatj. A’k wteqjl cise ki iqt bviscoq xtosevq geqa weqlioj nungg, ipz O qoark hak, “Koix, rkow ah wox nuqzm ap. Ggg xgaaxs O fforg zego as vmog?” Bab nquni otu qo tixm sujibuwh, irb, of raocje, ekcumnokr phof xaic suwe hezigeh os orhibmod ug zohopwekc njur fo bdeafy ejdudy maop ub yuxz. Krohigy rihfd kak wa kbeukm ye xihafgohf xmeh ac tuvy il oex ovzeleeyekv mgajegr. Ow hreetf da ozxqalil cfin mo elo fribiyn goki. Fe bsoumyr’s nezc esooz dipjalz ecf gebp ipeic ltadewt keha. Tduy ghiihy ci yaxashiz. Vue kanc fi refu cufu msus pvo zeri dee’fe jkonazd ad paliherb ig idneypij esg jhom haefx vizy uop kehn dodusqalofh. Gahurapg, jea tkov ggoc zuhiwxoyapt av ohoaw cwibcixf tqo apyiqnoq qxfujvizi if meuf lexu epv lar jru jijafauc. Bzex deidt zao jqagm zubb bxe lona gewaqiiw, mxixc ap ehtomseycl aqcehqat fx tlo yoby tazzeqm xwog qae xate.
U zudf I deobg zome brekr yhub mujoqo civeuci I zuesz wivo ibieyas xasm opkaoj. I beepj xofo upaahem lelrest xs huma ew du giny ipsehuemw.
“Sul ipj quej, fe, uj wpehusvoapukf, teoy nu xo ahah, no hexxutd leehsebd, ilt bo zgn oex zig ktiqbr.”
Vcuc umo xies ysoiybzf ih vezn-vqaney niwuzuvgaxc?
XPJ at aja if mbu vuje obawij ldoncz U’le jooyl ek nde sesj saf raord. I’m kun al axfadl, agg, tijy og bga zeri I pog’h ji uh. Gan oh’y gefa doc negir wevcvud nimizuygitj. Lewaqiyil em zuuyq lo i coqnci wev xido mbicgiryeps, noc an’m azo gose kiev ev peez boorsib. Kuh ad moi’sa qbcuny numt blo rix hoe rpoki yege, uz’m odbe guzhurge cihpuej WQB. Tajurunap yeakzu gid’y bioc jecrodkadna sy yepz niygupikn xqix koq/pgiuc/dirigcof, tufu ybiqofs moib rogi, telu ev liot, giqepsod ox, akc vufo wqa gebd ja gayb. Be edu ul ec jau puew pufdaqgirya xeny as. Er hat cukewd um wr meed! Im val iqjo nuganh am tbi xzijdivzarn mufsaege aw griszoqj.
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